[IBU] Lift the Limit
John Martin
jmartin at grahamconstruction.com
Tue Jan 22 17:25:45 CST 2008
Great point Andy. Let's not forget another major goal of Lift the
Limit...the freedom for our local brewers to make almost any style of
beer! We would then be on a level playing field with neighboring
states.
John Martin
Project Manager
515-699-7178 office
515-699-7179 fax
515-490-0605 mobile
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From: ibu-bounces at iowabrewersunion.org
[mailto:ibu-bounces at iowabrewersunion.org] On Behalf Of Cleghorn, Andy
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 4:04 PM
To: ibu at iowabrewersunion.org
Subject: Re: [IBU] Lift the Limit
I think the people you really need to get behind this are the retailers.
Remember, it isn't illegal to sell these beers in Iowa now - it is just
inconvenient. Our tax structure is higher, but overall it isn't a huge
difference if you find a retailer willing to go through the hassle. You
can find Bigfoot at Wine and Spirits Gallery, John's and Cyclone for
around $10.99/six pack. This isn't a cheap beer anywhere. I think I
gave $9.99/six pack at Gomers. Flying Dog specialties (Old Scratch is
11.6% ABV) are around, too. So you need to get the people that have the
most potential monetary gain to be for it. Get someone with deep
pockets that have a chance to make some money interested (the Hy Vee's
of the state) and you will have a much better shot at getting your
argument heard.
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From: ibu-bounces at iowabrewersunion.org
[mailto:ibu-bounces at iowabrewersunion.org] On Behalf Of Sabus, Brian
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 3:12 PM
To: John Martin; Mark McAndrews; ibu at iowabrewersunion.org
Subject: Re: [IBU] Lift the Limit
>From what I understand, Ray will have his legislative assistants do some
digging on states that have recently passed these laws to help him draft
the language, so no worries there. As to your other comment, I think a
definite 'yes'. If/when this placeholder comes to pass, we should pass
the word as the more folks rattling the cage the better.
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From: ibu-bounces at iowabrewersunion.org
[mailto:ibu-bounces at iowabrewersunion.org] On Behalf Of John Martin
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 3:04 PM
To: Mark McAndrews; ibu at iowabrewersunion.org
Subject: Re: [IBU] Lift the Limit
All good comments. This is very encouraging.
I think North Carolina lifted their limit about two years ago. Would it
be helpful for Mr. Zirkelbach to have a copy of their proposed
legislation as a template? Just a thought. (I don't have a copy, but a
copy could probably be found somewhere on the internet).
Also, should we get the "placeholder" would it make sense to rally the
troops (other homebrew clubs and the Iowa Brewer's Guild) around the
state to encourage them to write their state congressman?
Cheers!
John Martin
Project Manager
515-699-7178 office
515-699-7179 fax
515-490-0605 mobile
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[mailto:ibu-bounces at iowabrewersunion.org] On Behalf Of Mark McAndrews
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 2:07 PM
To: ibu at iowabrewersunion.org
Subject: Re: [IBU] Lift the Limit
This session is scheduled to be short & sweet, being an even numbered
year --- they want to wrap up early and get home for campaigning. This
session there will be little stomach for tackling tough or controversial
issues. The coffers are full, the governor already wants to spend more
than he has and the legislature will likely just slap down some of his
condition of the state proposals.
The one down side to proposing this now is that in an election year MADD
& the other neo-prohibitionists will likely glom onto any proposal as
making the highways more dangerous and encouraging drunk driving. This
will be an easy thing to twist in an attach ad prior to election. On the
plus side few seats in the house are actually contested, so it doesn't
matter so much. I'm game for any chance to get it on the agenda.
Also, expect the numnuts at ABC to claim there will be a loss of revenue
due to decreasing taxation of the high alc beers. Don't forget to stress
to your legislators that we all have a file somewhere on our computers
with the best beer stores in Omaha, the Twin Cities, Chicago, St. Louis,
KC.... so that we can load up on these beers everytime we cross the
state line.
----- Original Message -----
From: Sabus, Brian <mailto:brian.sabus at pioneer.com>
To: randle.boyd at mchsi.com ; ibu at iowabrewersunion.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 1:53 PM
Subject: Re: [IBU] Lift the Limit
I don't know Randle, but I'll certainly ask him when I talk to
him; it would be nice to have him give us the skinny at some point
during the 2008 session.
-Brian
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From: randle.boyd at mchsi.com [mailto:randle.boyd at mchsi.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 1:47 PM
To: Sabus, Brian; ibu at iowabrewersunion.org
Subject: Re: [IBU] Lift the Limit
Awesome. Is there any chance that he would like to speak to
possible legislation at an IBU meeting?
Cheers,
Randle
-------------- Original message from "Sabus, Brian"
<brian.sabus at pioneer.com>: --------------
Hello All,
Just wanted to let you know that a friend of mine whom
is a legislative consultant introduced me to Iowa District 31
Representative Ray Zirkelbach 3 weeks ago over a couple of beers at the
El Bait Shop. Well, turns out that Mr. Zirkelbach is a "beer
enthusiast" and he called my friend again today and wants to put
together a "placeholder" piece of legislation then draft some more
specific language over the course of the next few weeks to change Iowa's
5% Law.
Anyway, I imagine he will also be contacting Mike
England on this issue as Mike is our expert in this area.
Not sure what will come of this, but it can't hurt. Ray
is the chair of one committee in the House so he does have a little
pull. I'll keep you posted on how this proceeds if it indeed goes
anywhere.
Later,
Brian
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